Turning The Tide: Murphy Interviews Tortoiseshell
Sydney band Tortoiseshell describe its sound as a "big warm hug".
And who am I to disagree after listening to the band's debut single 'This Girl' on the Canyons label, Hole In The Sky. It certainly conjures up images of sun-drenched good times and lazy days of acid love. Its swirling guitars and laid back vocals may hint at the past but also gives total reference and relevance to what's happening now with bands like Tame Impala.
And, interestingly, they are one of the few rock bands still releasing on the beloved vinyl format ("We love vinyl") thanks to the Canyons. Influences range from Talking Heads to Happy Mondays and the band are now getting a lot of interest from the industry and insiders are beginning to chatter. Before they get swallowed up with deals and tours, I thought I'd sit down with them and see what's actually under the shell and where these tortoise trails began.
Are you all from Sydney? How did the band come together?
Four of us are from Sydney. Dom, our guitarist, was run out of his home town of Tamworth for playing 'The Pub With No Beer' with a fuzz pedal. The band was forged in the womb with the two brothers Rick and Will Mansfield who collided with a separate blood line of cousins Dom Kirkwood and Dom Broadhurst and an unattached Patrick Dagg at art school a few years back.
Tell us about the name?
Tortoiseshell was whittled down from a long list of names. We were looking for a name that let the music be the product and not the name.
I heard your name was Tennis, why the change?
That's correct. I think we were all a bit tired of all the inevitable tennis puns and interview questions (feel the fury...ha ha). It was originally meant to be abstract and unusual, but at times it detracted from the music we were making which is why we changed.
Are you all into tennis because we should have a match. It’s my fave sport.
We have had a few epic battles on the court. If you can handle it getting a little competitive, then why not.
Was there a specific sound that everyone was into?
Bands like Interpol, The Rapture, Joy Division, Bit by Bats were floating our mutual boats when we first came together. The urgency and emotion of the post-Punk sound was certainly a strong influence for us in the beginning, but in saying that, this wasn't necessarily the sound that hogged our stereos when we were growing up. Rick and Will had a leaning to a more conventional classic Rock/Pop sound through groups like Led Zeppelin, Creedence Clearwater and The Beatles. Paddy was more comfortable with bands such as the Velvet Underground and The Doors. The two Doms were definitely products of the 90s. Dom B was all about distortion, so bands like Sonic Youth, Pavement and Smashing Pumpkins made it to his Walkman, whereas Dom K was walking to the beat of the Beastie Boys, Tupac Shakur, Sepultura, and Joni Mitchell of course.
And what about influences on the single? Have you been trawling through your parents' record collections?
'This Girl' spawned out of the influence from bands like Roxy Music, Talking Heads, ESG, A Certain Ratio, Vincent Gallo, The Embassy, Happy Mondays, The Ruby Suns et al. It is based around our parents' collections but also more recently our insatiable desire to discover new music and reconnect with old.
Describing your sound is always a bit of a ‘wanky’ question so can you describe your sound for me?
Well in honour of your question our sound is like a big warm hug; a euphoric high; a lingering look or as one blogger aptly put it, a summery post-coital beer. I guess it is a blend of harmonious Pop, 80s Rock, and dark Dub.
How did the Hole In The Sky connection come into things?
We played a few gigs with Ryan and Leo a few years back, when I think they first arrived in Sydney. They were getting chauffeured around by our then manager. We all really dug what they were doing on the dance scene and collaboratively with Tame Impala. We started sending them tracks that we were demoing to get feedback and a friendship grew out of that.
So you obviously knew about the Tame Impala connection with the label?
Yeah we were well aware that they had discovered and released Tame Impala. It's great to be part of the same stable.
Have you been compared to them and what are thoughts on media and comparisons?
I don't believe we have been compared to them. We are a different kettle of fish. But I guess it would be a compliment if so as they are a killer band.
The Canyons have done a beautiful simplified dub of the track. What are your thoughts on the dance music scene?
That is their talent in stripping a song back to its pure core. The dance music scene is thriving at the moment, with Canyons at the forefront forever pushing the envelope.
The ‘This Girl’ sound harks back to the 60s, I think. Tell us about how the track came about?
It came about after we listened back to a series of out-takes from a writing session last year on an uncle's farm in Orange. There was a scintillating 30 second grab of the drum beat with a hint of synth. So then Rick took it away and came back with the expanded synth idea and vocal melody. Quite naturally the song fell into place thereafter. It wasn't a conscious decision to reference the 60s but I guess that is just our musical upbringing seeping through the cracks.
Who produced the single and where was it done?
'This Girl' in its original form was recorded with a bunch of other tracks that were to form a Tennis EP at 301 studio with Tim Carr. We then gave a preview of the track to Ryan and Leo of Canyons, who immediately heard something in it. So we reworked it with them producing, replacing live drums for programmed ones, adding an acoustic and simplifying the instrumentation.
Is there a writing process involved or is it a free-for-all?
With the first incarnation of the band the writing process was a bit of a free-for-all. We were writing songs in rehearsal with all five of us playing simultaneously that we would then perform that weekend live. We never gave the song a chance to grow or breathe. At this stage we have certainly learnt to respect the writing process. We are now set up with Pro Tools, which allows us to scrutinize a song and play around with structure and different ideas. Working with the boys from Canyons has taught us also to not over-complicate things and to let the core idea to ring through.
Would you say you’re a studio band or do you prefer live?
It has been a long time between drinks for us live because at this point we are focused on writing new material. But I don't think you could classify us a studio band. We're very keen to start performing live again, particularly now that we have a song released that hopefully people will know.
Is there an LP or new material on the horizon?
We are currently working on tracks for an EP that will hopefully be out by the end of the year.
Will HITS be releasing all new material or has there been any major label courting?
We've had a fair bit of interest since the single landed but we will be hopefully putting out the EP with HITS.
What do you love about being a band?
The freedom of expression and being creative with your best mates.
Tell us about the artwork, especially on the vinyl, it looks amazing. You guys do it yourself? Any inspiration here?
Will, our drummer, did the artwork with the help of Dom B. The artwork depicts 'This Girl', a serene Muse modelled on the idealised female form of Venus. We wanted to reflect the dreamy jubilant mood of the song so we opted for pastel colour with a hazy Pop Art spin, giving a nod in the direction of Howard Arkley, Toulouse Lautrec, Mucha, Hiroshige, Roy Lichtenstein and of course Warhol.
What are your thoughts on vinyl?
We love wax! Nothing beats it! The sound quality is amazing and the sleeve art gives a further insight into the idea of the song.
Where can we see you next?
We will be doing a string of launch/Hole in the Sky parties come august. Keep your ear to the ground.
Murphy.


